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Tema: ¿Suplementos veganos de DHA en España?

  1. #31
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    Buenas;

    Al final pedí el DHA de Deva a VeganStore y me lo enviaron a mi casa en cuestión de una semana y algo. El bote me costó 32'96€ (compré dos, uno para mi y otro para mi chico) y los gastos de envió fueron de 5 € mas o menos. Total que me salio todo por 71€ (aunque como los gastos iban a medias entre mi chico y yo fue mucho menos en realidad)

    Yo esperaba unos gastos de envío mucho mayores. Me sorprendió bastante que fuesen 5€ y no mas, teniendo en cuenta que cuando pido algo por Internet a España me suelen cobrar entre 8 y 10€.

    Así que muy contenta.

    Gracias a todos de nuevo por vuestra ayuda.

    Un besito.
    Todo lo que le pasa a los animales muy pronto le sucederá también al hombre. Todo lo que le ocurre a la Tierra le ocurrirá a los hijos de la Tierra; si los hombres escupen en el suelo, se escupen a sí mismos.
    La Tierra no pertenece al hombre, es el hombre el que pertenece a la Tierra. Todo va enlazado, el hombre no tejió la trama de la vida; él es solo un hilo de esa trama.



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    http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/...n-fish-eaters/


    Omega-3: ALA intakes enough for EPA/DPA levels for non-fish eaters?

    1 commentBy Stephen Daniells, 08-Nov-2010
    Related topics: Omega-3, Research, Nutritional lipids and oils, Cardiovascular health
    The conversion of the plant-based omega-3 ALA to the long-chain EPA and DHA may be increased in vegans and vegetarians who do not eat fish, suggest results from the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition (EPIC).


    Despite having significantly lower intakes of EPA and DHA (associated with fish consumption), blood levels of EPA and DHA in vegans and vegetarians were approximately the same as regular fish eaters, according to findings published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
    The results indicate that when people do not consume adequate levels of EPA and DHA, like vegans and non-fish-eating vegetarians, their bodies respond by increasing the conversion levels of ALA to EPA.
    “The implications of this study are that, if conversion of plant-based sources of n-3 PUFAs were found to occur in intervention studies, and were sufficient to maintain health, it could have significant consequences for public health recommendations and for preservation of the wild fish supply,” wrote the researchers, led by Ailsa Welch from the University of East Anglia in England.
    Background
    Alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) omega-3 is an essential fatty acid that the body cannot make, and therefore must be consumed in the diet. Good sources of ALA include: flaxseed, soybeans, walnuts, and olive oil. The U.S Institute of Medicine recommends an ALA intake of 1.6 grams per day for men and 1.1 grams per day for women.
    The health benefits associated with alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) consumption include cardiovascular effects, neuro-protection, a counter to the inflammation response, and benefits against autoimmune disease.
    However, the longer-chain eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) have received more study from scientists and more attention from the consumers.
    Much attention has been paid to the conversion of ALA to the longer chain EPA, with many stating that this conversion is very small. According to an article in Nutrition Reviews (Vol. 66, pp. 326-332), between eight and 20 per cent of ALA is converted to EPA in humans, and between 0.5 and nine percent of ALA is converted to DHA.
    In addition, the gender plays an important role with women of reproductive age reportedly converting ALA to EPA at a 2.5-fold greater rate than healthy men.
    This conversion obviously contributes to the body's pool of EPA and DHA, which play a key role in, amongst other things, maintaining cardiovascular health.
    “Because fish and fish oils are the most concentrated sources of EPA and DHA, individuals who do not eat fish or fish oil (eg. vegans and non-fish-eating vegetarians and meat eaters) could be at risk of low or inadequate n-3 PUFA status,” wrote the researchers.
    “In addition, because the supply of wild fish is under threat and supplies are compromised, if the maintenance of adequate n-3 PUFA status via conversion of plant-derived ALA was possible this could reduce the requirements for fish and help preserve the fish supply,” they added.
    Study details
    Dr Welch and her co-workers analyzed intakes of omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs), and correlated with blood levels of ALA, EPA, and DHA in fish-eaters and non-fish-eating meat-eaters, vegetarians, or vegans. The researchers included 14,422 men and women aged between 39 and 78 participating in the EPIC-Norfolk cohort. Blood levels of fatty acids were measured in 4,902 people.

    Results showed that omega-3 intakes were between 57 and 80 percent lower in the non-fish-eaters, compared with fish-eaters. However, for plasma levels of DHA and EPA between the groups the differences were much smaller. Indeed, the average EPA level in fish eaters was 64.7 micromoles per liter, compared with 57.1, 55.1, and 50 micromoles per liter for non-fish-eating meat-eaters, vegetarians, or vegans. Furthermore, the average DHA level in fish eaters was 271 micromoles per liter, compared with 241.3, 223.5, and 286.4 micromoles per liter for non-fish-eating meat-eaters, vegetarians, or vegans.
    “One explanation for this observation may be due to increased conversion, and our data suggest that the precursor-product ration from plant-derived ALA to circulating long chain n-3 PUFAs was significantly greater in non-fish eaters than in those who ate fish,” wrote the researchers.
    “Although there have been many small, careful metabolic studies determining the extent of conversion, we believe this to be the first large population study to investigate intakes, status, and the precursor-product ratio by using statistical models as, surrogate, estimates of conversion of ALA to long chain n-2 PUFAs in different dietary habits.”
    Biochemistry
    The conversion of ALA to EPA involves the delta6-desaturase enzyme to form stearidonic acid (SDA). An enzyme (malonyl co-enzyme A) then elongates the SDA from an 18-carbon chain to a 20-carbon chain, and further desaturation, this time by the delta5-desaturase enzyme, results in the production of EPA.
    Welcome
    The study was welcomed by Loren Ward, director of research for Glanbia Nutritionals. "This is a very interesting study that enhances our understanding of the conditions needed to convert the essential fatty acid, ALA, to EPA and DHA," said Ward.
    "Quantifying dietary intake of ALA, DHA and EPA and measuring plasma levels of ALA, DHA and EPA allowed the researchers to calculate a conversion ratio. While there were very large differences in dietary intake, plasma levels did not show the same degree of variation. The differences in plasma were much smaller than what would be expected and results suggested that the best conversion rates are by individuals that don't consume DHA and EPA.
    "This study supports past research showing greater conversion in women versus men and higher conversion in non-fish eaters compared to fish eaters. Future studies are needed to expand our understanding of factors that influence conversion of ALA to DHA and EPA and outline the key physiological roles of ALA," he added.
    Source: American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
    November 2010, Volume 92, Number 5, Pages 1040-1051, doi:10.3945/ajcn.2010.29457
    “Dietary intake and status of n–3 polyunsaturated fatty acids in a population of fish-eating and non-fish-eating meat-eaters, vegetarians, and vegans and the precursor-product ratio of {alpha}-linolenic acid to long-chain n–3 polyunsaturated fatty acids: results from the EPIC-Norfolk cohort1,2,3
    Authors: A.A. Welch, S. Shakya-Shrestha, M.A.H. Lentjes, N.J. Wareham, K-T. Khaw
    Ni toda la oscuridad del mundo podrá acabar con la luz de una sola vela

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    traduzco, a groso modo (por traductor), lo q creo relevante


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    http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/...n-fish-eaters/
    The conversion of the plant-based omega-3 ALA to the long-chain EPA and DHA may be increased in vegans and vegetarians who do not eat fish, suggest results from the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition (EPIC).

    La conversión de los ácidos grasos omega 3 ALA, a base de plantas, a la de cadena larga EPA y DHA puede aumentar en los veganos y vegetarianos que no comen pescado, sugieren los resultados del estudio prospectivo europeo sobre cáncer y nutrición (EPIC).


    Despite having significantly lower intakes of EPA and DHA (associated with fish consumption), blood levels of EPA and DHA in vegans and vegetarians were approximately the same as regular fish eaters, according to findings published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

    The results indicate that when people do not consume adequate levels of EPA and DHA, like vegans and non-fish-eating vegetarians, their bodies respond by increasing the conversion levels of ALA to EPA.
    A pesar de tener la ingesta significativamente más baja de EPA y DHA (asociado con el consumo de pescado), los niveles de EPA y DHA en los vegetarianos y los veganos fueron aproximadamente los mismos que los de quienes comen pescado regularmente, según los resultados publicados en la revista American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

    Los resultados indican que cuando las personas no consumen los niveles adecuados de EPA y DHA, al igual que los veganos y vegetarianos no comen pescado, sus cuerpos responden aumentando los niveles de conversión de ALA a EPA.

    Study details

    ... ...

    Results showed that omega-3 intakes were between 57 and 80 percent lower in the non-fish-eaters, compared with fish-eaters. However, for plasma levels of DHA and EPA between the groups the differences were much smaller. Indeed, the average EPA level in fish eaters was 64.7 micromoles per liter, compared with 57.1, 55.1, and 50 micromoles per liter for non-fish-eating meat-eaters, vegetarians, or vegans. Furthermore, the average DHA level in fish eaters was 271 micromoles per liter, compared with 241.3, 223.5, and 286.4 micromoles per liter for non-fish-eating meat-eaters, vegetarians, or vegans.
    Los resultados mostraron que la ingesta de omega-3 tenían entre 57 y 80 por ciento menor en los que no comen pescado, en comparación con quienes si comen pescado. Sin embargo, para los niveles plasmáticos de DHA y EPA entre los grupos las diferencias fueron mucho menores. De hecho, el nivel medio de la EPA en los comedores de pescado fue de 64,7 micromoles por litro, en comparación con 57.1, 55.1, y 50 micromoles por litro en el caso de quienes no se alimentan con pescado, los vegetarianos o veganos. Por otra parte, la media de nivel de DHA en los comedores de pescado fue de 271 micromoles por litro, en comparación con 241.3, 223.5 y 286.4 micromoles por litro para los q no se alimentan de pescado, los vegetarianos o veganos.

    “One explanation for this observation may be due to increased conversion, and our data suggest that the precursor-product ration from plant-derived ALA to circulating long chain n-3 PUFAs was significantly greater in non-fish eaters than in those who ate fish,” wrote the researchers.

    “Although there have been many small, careful metabolic studies determining the extent of conversion, we believe this to be the first large population study to investigate intakes, status, and the precursor-product ratio by using statistical models as, surrogate, estimates of conversion of ALA to long chain n-2 PUFAs in different dietary habits.”
    "Una explicación para esta observación puede ser debido a la conversión mayor, y nuestros datos sugieren que la ración de precursores de subproductos de origen vegetal ALA a circular de cadena larga n-3 PUFAs fue significativamente mayor en quienes no consumen pescado que en aquellos que comían pescado, "escribieron los investigadores.

    "Aunque ha habido muchos pequeños estudios, cuidado metabólico para determinar el grado de conversión, creemos que este es el primer estudio de gran población para investigar la ingesta, el estado y la relación de precursores de productos mediante el uso de modelos estadísticos como suplente, los cálculos de conversión de ALA a cadena larga n-2 PUFAs en diferentes hábitos alimenticios. "

    Welcome

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    "Quantifying dietary intake of ALA, DHA and EPA and measuring plasma levels of ALA, DHA and EPA allowed the researchers to calculate a conversion ratio. While there were very large differences in dietary intake, plasma levels did not show the same degree of variation. The differences in plasma were much smaller than what would be expected and results suggested that the best conversion rates are by individuals that don't consume DHA and EPA.

    "This study supports past research showing greater conversion in women versus men and higher conversion in non-fish eaters compared to fish eaters. Future studies are needed to expand our understanding of factors that influence conversion of ALA to DHA and EPA and outline the key physiological roles of ALA," he added.
    "Cuantificación de la ingesta dietética de ALA, DHA y EPA y la medición de los niveles plasmáticos de ALA, DHA y EPA permitió a los investigadores a calcular un índice de conversión. Si bien existen diferencias muy grandes en el consumo de la dieta, los niveles plasmáticos no mostraron el mismo grado de variación. Las diferencias en el plasma fueron mucho menores que lo esperado y los resultados sugieren que las mejores tasas de conversión están en las personas que no consumen DHA y EPA.

    "Este estudio apoya investigaciones previas que muestran una mayor conversión en mujeres en comparación con los hombres y una conversión más alta en quienes no comen pescado en comparación con los comedores de pescado. Futuros estudios son necesarios para ampliar nuestra comprensión de los factores que influyen en la conversión de ALA en DHA y EPA y resumen de la clave fisiológica papeles de ALA ", añadió.
    Ni toda la oscuridad del mundo podrá acabar con la luz de una sola vela

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPGKU...TbguMQkn14cxGA

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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20861171#

    Am J Clin Nutr. 2010 Nov;92(5):1040-51. Epub 2010 Sep 22.
    Dietary intake and status of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids in a population of fish-eating and non-fish-eating meat-eaters, vegetarians, and vegans and the precursor-product ratio of α-linolenic acid to long-chain n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids: results from the EPIC-Norfolk cohort.

    Welch AA, Shakya-Shrestha S, Lentjes MA, Wareham NJ, Khaw KT.
    School of Medicine Health Policy and Practice, University of East Anglia, Norwich, United Kingdom. a.welch@uea.ac.uk


    RESULTS: Most of the dietary intake of EPA and DHA was supplied by fish; however, meat was the major source in meat-eaters, and spreading fats, soups, and sauces were the major sources in vegetarians. Total n-3 PUFA intakes were 57-80% lower in non-fish-eaters than in fish-eaters, but status differences were considerably smaller. The estimated precursor-product ratio was greater in women than in men and greater in non-fish-eaters than in fish-eaters.

    CONCLUSIONS: Substantial differences in intakes and in sources of n-3 PUFAs existed between the dietary-habit groups, but the differences in status were smaller than expected, possibly because the precursor-product ratio was greater in non-fish-eaters than in fish-eaters, potentially indicating increased estimated conversion of ALA. If intervention studies were to confirm these findings, it could have implications for fish requirements.

    PMID: 20861171 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
    Última edición por Snickers; 29-nov-2010 a las 08:40
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