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Roberto X
05-sep-2010, 12:18
Morrisey trata de sub-especie a Chinxs!, y dice que el National Front(partido nazi de Inglaerra!) debería tener más peso político!
Morrissey reignites racism row by calling Chinese a 'subspecies'.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/sep/03/morrissey-china-subspecies-racism
quien lo pueda traducir, mejor...
lo del national front viene a mitad de la lectura!
Remark came in context of an attack on China's animal welfare record, with singer having been criticised on a number of previous occasions for negative race comments

Read Simon Armitage's interview with Morrissey in full

Tom Clark: Morrissey, this joke isn't funny anymore


Morrissey, the former Smiths singer and author of the song Meat Is Murder, is a long-term vegetarian, animal rights advocate and campaigner against circuses and zoos.

For almost three decades, indie rock icon Morrissey has made almost as many enemies as devoted fans willing to hang on his every melancholy-drenched lyric. Described by one high court judge as "devious, truculent and unreliable", the former Smiths frontman is no stranger to controversy and criticism. But tomorrow he reignites a simmering row about his views on race in an interview in Guardian Weekend magazine, in which he describes Chinese people as a "subspecies" because of their treatment of animals.

Morrissey, a vegetarian and animal rights advocate who last year abandoned the stage at the Coachella festival in California because of the smell of cooking meat, described the treatment of animals in China as "absolutely horrific", referring to recent news stories about animals in Chinese circuses and zoos. He told interviewer Simon Armitage: "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

A spokesman for Love Music Hate Racism, which received a donation of £28,000 from the singer in 2008 after his apparently anti-immigration comments made in music magazine NME convulsed the media, said it would be unable to accept support from Morrissey again if he did not rescind or dispute today's comments.

"It really is just crude racism," said Martin Smith. "When you start using language like 'subspecies', you are entering into dark and murky water. I don't think we would, or could, ask him to come back after that."

Armitage said Morrissey was typically and deliberately provocative throughout the interview. "I thought at the time it was a dangerous thing to say into a tape recorder. He must have known it would make waves, he's not daft," he said. "But he's provocative and theatrical, and it was one of dozens of dramatic pronouncements. I'm not an apologist for that kind of remark, and couldn't ignore it. But clearly, when it comes to animal rights and animal welfare, he's absolutely unshakable in his beliefs. In his view, if you treat an animal badly, you are less than human. I think that was his point."

Morrissey said in a statement tonight: "If anyone has seen the horrific and unwatchable footage of the Chinese cat and dog trade – animals skinned alive – then they could not possibly argue in favour of China as a caring nation. There are no animal protection laws in China and this results in the worst animal abuse and cruelty on the planet. It is indefensible."

His latest comments are not the first time the singer has provoked accusations of racism. Some of his song titles and lyrics have attracted criticism, including the tracks Bengali in Platforms – "He only wants to embrace your culture/And to be your friend forever/ … Oh shelve your western plans/ … life is hard enough when you belong here" – and National Front Disco.

In 1992 NME accused Morrissey of "flirting with disaster" and racist imagery after wrapping himself in the union flag while on stage in Finsbury Park, north London.

In the same year, the singer, now 51, was quoted in Q Magazine stating that he did not want to be "horrible or pessimistic" but he didn't "really think, for instance, black people and white people will ever really get on or like each other. I don't really think they ever will." While in 1994 he told Select magazine that the National Front should be given a clear voice or platform in order for them to be "less of a threat".

The war of words with NME continued in 2007 after Morrissey, who lived in Rome at the time, was quoted in an interview with the magazine apparently criticising levels of immigration after being asked if he would ever consider moving back to England. "With the issue of immigration, it's very difficult because, although I don't have anything against people from other countries, the higher the influx into England the more the British identity disappears," he said. "If you walk through Knightsbridge on any bland day of the week you won't hear an English accent. You'll hear every accent under the sun apart from the British accent."

At another point in the interview he stated: "England is a memory now. The gates are flooded and anybody can have access to England and join in."

Morrissey issued a writ for defamation against the magazine and its then editor Conor McNicholas, saying the publication had "deliberately tried to characterise me as a racist … in order to boost their dwindling circulation".

He vehemently denied the accusations of racism. "I abhor racism and oppression or cruelty of any kind and will not let this pass without being absolutely clear and emphatic … Racism is beyond common sense and has no place in our society," he said in a statement.

Simon Price, a music journalist who has followed Morrissey's career closely, said his die-hard fans who have idolised him for more than 25 years would be unlikely to desert him, but others would be "appalled, if not exactly surprised".

The singer appeared to have left little room for explanation in his controversial comment, he added. "What are the apologists going to say this time? It looks like in his old age Morrissey has forgotten to include the ambiguity, like he has done in the past. Maybe he just doesn't care any more."

He added: "For Morrissey's hardcore fan base, no matter what he says he can do no wrong, but this is not going to make those in the media feel favourably toward him and lots of doors will be shut to him that maybe had been ajar in the past."

nitta
05-sep-2010, 14:11
Yo no puedo traducirlo todo (ni lo entiendo todo), sólo sé que lo dijo por la forma en que tratan a los demás animales.

DanielJack
05-sep-2010, 14:19
Basicamente que el pollo esta totalmente cabreado con los chinos porque hacen practicas horribles contra los animales como quitarles la piel vivos y que esta indignado porque alli en china son intocables y por eso dice que son una subespecie, es como cuando alguien hace algo horrible por aqui que se la quiere linchar y cosas asi. Aunque el niega totalmente estar a favor del racismo y de la opresion de ningun tipo y que el racismo no tiene lugar en nuestra sociedad. Es decir que los considera una subespecie pero no a tratarlos de forma racista

Roberto X
05-sep-2010, 16:04
compartir eso es considerar a otras etnias por su trato a los animales también de sub-especie, no se puede borrar con el codo lo que escribió con la mano...
dije de leer porque aparece algo sobre el national front al cual morrisey avala, y también dichos en el pasado contra la inmigración.
la m.... muchas veces sale a flote pero no la queremos ver.
esto da más pie a que los especistas nos sigan considerando como unos frikis

Funksturm
07-sep-2010, 13:57
dije de leer porque aparece algo sobre el national front al cual morrisey avala, y también dichos en el pasado contra la inmigración.
la m.... muchas veces sale a flote pero no la queremos ver.
esto da más pie a que los especistas nos sigan considerando como unos frikis

La entrevista original en la que Morrissey supuestamente apoya al National Front y al BNP viene citada en el artículo original de The Guardian y es ésta:

http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1994/glove.htm

Me parece especialmente interesante poner al completo la pregunta y la respuesta que se consideran probatorias de la simpatia por National Front:

What do you say to the argument that it's right that the National Front and the BNP should be denied access to the news media if they pursue their political goals through violence, and that you're being irresponsible?
"Well, I think that if the National Front were to hate anyone, it would be me. I would be top of the list. But I think it opens the debate. If the BNP were afforded television time or unbiased space in newspapers, it would seem less of a threat and it would ease the situation. They are gagged so much that they take revenge in the most frightening way by hurting and killing people. But part of that is simply their anger at being ignored in what is supposed to be a democratic society."